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Published Date: 29 May 2008
By Julia Bennett
BIN or gone – you decide!
A campaign against new wheelie bins in North Shore launched by Coun Ivan Taylor has sparked a fierce debate among residents.

While some folk are pleased with their new wheelie bins as part of Blackpool Council's recycling programme, others living
in terraced homes in Claremont say the system is impractical because of a lack of space in their yards.

A stream of support and criticism has been posted on The Gazette website – with some people requesting the bins be replaced by biodegradable bin bags and others suggesting residents adjust to the new system to help the environment.

To see the full debate click here

Cj83, who lives off Talbot Road, said: "We all got our bins last week and I have no room for them. One of them is at my back door – what happens if there was a fire? Where are the kids going to play?"

Frustrated, from St Annes, said: "I suggest the council staff and councillors who think this is appropriate stay with a family in this area for at least two weeks to see just how difficult and impractical this suggestion is."

But wheelie bin supporters say it is about time people started to recycle.

Cardy, from Blackpool, said: "The only disaster will be if we don't recycle. We all need to do our bit. Where will we put all the rubbish when the dumps are full?"

True Blackpudlian said: "Nice clean wheelie-bins look a lot more aesthetically pleasing than dirty old bin bags that cats and seagulls will tear open."

And Miss Jan, who lives in the Claremont ward, said she had plenty of room for the bins.

She said: "I just have a yard and have no problem storing the two wheelie bins. We also have gated alleyways – maybe we could just put our bins in the alleyways and the bin men can retrieve them from there."

Coun Ian Fowler, cabinet member for business services, said the council was committed to making Blackpool cleaner and greener.

He said: "Staff have visited many properties in the new wheeled bin rollout area this week and most do have sufficient space; however there are some where there is not room and we are looking at solutions.

"We are committed to a tidy Blackpool and recycling is one part of this pledge towards a cleaner, greener future.

"We have not treated the bin rollout as a one-size-fits-all operation and have had many positive comments."

Anyone who has any problems can contact the council on (01253) 477477.



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  • Last Updated: 29 May 2008 10:04 AM
  • Source: Blackpool Gazette
  • Location: Blackpool
 
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Frustrated,

St Annes 29/05/2008 10:40:40
The issues of recycling and all these wheelie bins are two different topics. No-one has said there shouldn't be an attempt to recycle as much waste as possible. I have plenty of room for the two bins, box and bag that Fylde provide and am happy to sort as much as possible. Communal bins or bags though would be a far more practical option for terraced housing and flats that were built long ago before wheelie bins existed.

Whilst wheelie bins are the best option for most, and I certainly like mine, they are not always suitable for every property. I congratulate the council for admitting that not all the properties are suitable and looking forward to a more reasonable option.
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chrissy21,

29/05/2008 12:47:30
I have friends who live on Belmont Ave, Central. Similar houses to those at Claremont.
They have 2 bins, no problem at all, but they are concerned about collection days.
At Belmont they have gates locked at either end of the alleyways, so (A) do they put their bins out in the alley for collection ? Or (B) do they have to wheel the bins through the house to the front door of the street for collection ?
If it is (B) then i would'nt be happy either.
Bins are for the rear yard, not for the front of houses. I am for the 'green issues' but not at a cost of smelly bins outside my house, it'll be a health issue, and unsightly issue.
Can you imagine walking past a street that does not have a front yard / garden and there are over 200 bins standing outside the front door?

If the bins were to be put out in the rear alley the wagons would not be able to get from one end to the other because of space, so the only solution would be for the bin men to wheelie each one (which is time consuming) but less messy and unslightly that collecting from the front door of houses.

Can anyone answer those questions above please ?
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MissyB,

Poulton 29/05/2008 13:38:59
Recycling is really important and I would hate to see this row become ammunition for people to refuse to go green.
Surely councillors, well perhaps council officers, have enough imagination to come up with other solutions.
Remember, their job is to serve not dictate.
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Roy, South Shore,

29/05/2008 13:59:26
While I completely agree with the fact that we should all be recycling and play my part as much as possible, I think the council has put little thought into the wheelie bin scheme, especially where terraced houses are concerned. I live in South Shore and have had these bins for around a year. The instructions are that they are to be left at the front of the property on the day of collection, however, the street adjacent to mine is a row of around twelve terraced houses, no one wants to be wheeling their bins through the house and it’s a long way round, particularly for the more elderly residents, so they are permanently left at the front of the house, as these properties have very small gardens, most people choose to leave them in the street. Not a particularly nice view, rows of bins lined up on the street and as the street concerned is part of the pedestrian entry to the new Blackpool gateway and park, what must the tourist think to be greeted by rows of wheelie bins when they arrive? Would it not be possible for someone with some common sense to get involved and return to the old scheme where rubbish was collected from the rear of the properties when there ample room for the bin wagon?
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cjack,

Poulton 29/05/2008 14:45:58
There are many myths about recycling and landfill etc. For instance, we are not running out of space to dump rather SUITABLE space to dump. All the rubbish the country will produce in the next century would easily fit in a hole the size of Preston (suggestions on a postcard please). Do some research on the web and you will find that this is true.
Thing is, are we being lied to about the value of recycling? I do recycle but this article got me thinking :- http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2957302.ece
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sandfly,

29/05/2008 16:27:11
Tickles me that the council should see fit to let these bins be at the front of the premises !Then refuse planning permission for cladding etc. What ever next ? Laundry lines like they have in Naples outside the front of the house to save energy from using dryers ?
Another point i find amusing is now i have a blue recycle bin it is suggested that i rinse out the such contents to avoid smells ! Well whats green about that ? Everyone emptying the resevoirs ?
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shamus304,

blackpool north 29/05/2008 17:17:28
answer to chrissy21, you can present your bin at the end of the alley near to the gate, bin crews have keys to open the gates, if to old or frail for any reason to wheel the bin you can request an assist by phoning the council, they will inform which ever crew do the area and they will come to get the bin and return it
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Bill R,

Blackpool 29/05/2008 22:23:27
Just one small point, I am all for helping the planet but the business people in this town of ours do not have to do anything at all. WHY?
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chrissy21,

06/06/2008 13:43:39
(7) Shamus: obviously this is not the case, of you read that residents have to walk past past umpteen houses in the back alley and present their bins at the front of their homes.
Maybe for the elderly this is the case, but for the rest of able bodied folk, they have to do it the hard way.

Why don't the council listen ?
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neal1260,

07/06/2008 16:50:04
The bully boys of Veolia that arrogantly block the roads at peak traffic times and laugh in the face of rate payers with the council backing and this type of story just overshadows the point of going green. They just aggrivate the rate payers that are paying for the priveledge. Use your votes at elections for the nominee that will get rid of the numpties and serve the rate payer.
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